What’s behind the opposition to public housing in a high opportunity area in Houston?

(Update: After receiving a great deal of feedback on this post – see the comment section below – we posted an in-depth statement on our position on the Fountain View Apartments.)

The Houston Housing Authority has proposed a new mixed-income apartment development on Fountain View Drive, next to the agency’s headquarters in west Houston near the Galleria shopping mall. Unlike nearly all other HHA developments (identified by stars on map above), the site is in a high opportunity neighborhood inside the affluent, largely white area of Houston known as “The Arrow” (outlined on map above). But, following an all-too-common trend, the proposal has been met with significant pushback from some of the area’s residents.  

Opposition to affordable housing projects in wealthy communities, in the Houston area and around the state, creates intense (and often successful) political pressure to block development. The stated reasons for opposition are varied, from worries about increased traffic to barely-veiled racial dog whistles about the people who might live in the new affordable complexes.

In the case of the Fountain View site, community groups have raised concerns that the development will contribute to the overcrowding problem in the neighborhood’s public schools. Is this a legitimate fear? Or is it another excuse to keep low income people of color out of The Arrow?

“Overcrowding”

Briargrove Elementary, the nearest school to Fountain View, is currently at capacity and capped for enrollment. Two other neighborhood elementary schools are also at capacity. So while overcrowding is currently a problem in the area, a new elementary school with space for 750 students, Gov. Mark White Elementary, will open in the fall to accommodate the neighborhood’s population growth. The HHA development on Fountain View would not open until the summer of 2018 at the earliest.

Further undermining the overcrowding argument is the fact that the proposed development would not allow for large families. Of the 233 units at Fountain View, only one-third would have two bedrooms and none would have three bedrooms. HHA’s occupancy requirements state that a maximum of two people are allowed in each bedroom and that children of different genders can’t occupy the same room.

Based on the occupancy rate of similar-sized apartments in their current developments, HHA estimates that 120 children between the ages of zero and 18 would live at Fountain View. An estimated 42 would be of elementary school age.

It seems unlikely that the addition of 42 elementary schoolers to a neighborhood, more than two years after the opening of a new school with room for nearly 18 times as many students, would significantly contribute to overcrowding. Perhaps public housing opponents aren’t aware of the low impact that future Fountain View children would likely have on nearby schools. After all, one opponent told the press that she expects “300 more kids on the waiting list at Briargrove” if the HHA development is built.

But if the primary concern of residents is a numerical increase of children in a crowded neighborhood, it’s reasonable to assume that concern would extend to any new large development, not just public housing. Forty-two new upper-middle-class children at a public school impact class sizes exactly as much as 42 new low income students, after all.

Double standard

However, looking into the reaction to new private development in the Briargrove area, a double standard starts to emerge. Market-rate developments with plans similar to Fountain View have opened or began construction in the past few years without any pushback from the surrounding community. Here are three examples of recent private developments within Briargrove’s attendance zone:

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Despite being larger developments than Fountain View, with more room for families, none of these complexes faced any objections from the community. It seems clear that school overcrowding is only a concern in the neighborhood when the new students would be from low income families of color.

Reams of research demonstrate that living in a high opportunity area near good schools, like the area around Briargrove, vastly improves the outcomes for a low income child later in life – they are more likely to receive a better education, grow up healthier away from the negative effects of violence and ultimately earn a better living. Children who currently live in public housing in Houston are mostly excluded from those opportunities. The Briargrove attendance zone is a very different kind of neighborhood than most of the places where HHA sites are located, and an example of the kind of high opportunity area that can boost a child’s success.

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When residents of high opportunity areas rally against affordable development, there are often very real consequences: The barriers keeping away low income people of color get higher; the doors to good schools and improved chances for children are shut.

A campaign to block the Fountain View project is already in motion. Congressman John Culberson, responding to the voices of exclusion in the neighborhood, has called on the federal government to stop the development. According to an ABC-13 report on the controversy, the community can “expect a full fight, including…protests, in the months ahead.”

If public housing opponents win that fight, who loses?

HHA has proposed that 70 percent of the units at Fountain View would be designated for families earning 60 percent of the city’s median family income or less. That means a family of four would need to earn less than $41,580 per year to qualify.

That isn’t a living wage in Houston – but it’s more than many hardworking adults earn. If you’re a single breadwinner with children, you might want to live in a high opportunity area near your job or good educational opportunities. The Fountain View complex could be a new home for many public servants who earn less than the development’s income standard:

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As the “fight” around Fountain View moves forward, it’s important to remember that these are the people whom the housing opponents would exclude from their neighborhood, all in the name of a trumped-up, inconsistently-applied overcrowding argument – or, perhaps, something else left unsaid.

Texas Housers community planner Melissa Beeler contributed to this post.

45 thoughts on “What’s behind the opposition to public housing in a high opportunity area in Houston?

  1. You didn’t even mention the brand new development, 2626 Fountain View, which is right next door to the proposed HHA site. This is plan and simple racism, or maybe classism at best.

    However, HHA needs to start developing in a more responsible manner in regards to their income mix. It isn’t fiscally responsible to build a project where 70% of the tenants make below 60% AMI since this will ultimately keep the development from supporting itself. They should really consider a more tiered approach to get a better income mix thus generating a more self-sustaining property. As long as congress continues to reduce funding to PHA’s this needs to be taken into account. Make you wonder why many of the well respected housing authorities in the nation, i.e. Seattle, Austin, Atlanta, etc., are doing so but HHA isn’t following suit. Could there possibly be a leadership issue there?

  2. This kind of heavy handed, government-forced housing project is what Obama and other extremist social engineers want…and taxpayers don’t. Racist? Classist? Well done – when facts don’t support your position, let the baseless accusations and name-calling fly. what a joke.

  3. Neither Will Livesley-O’Neil nor Melissa Beeler work for a newspaper or media outlet. Indeed, Mr. Livesley-O’Neil is the Communications Lead at Texas Low Income Housing Information Service and Ms. Beeler is a Community Planner at Texas Low Income Housing Information Service. In other words, they are HHA’s communications team. Certainly, they did not reach out to Congressman Culberson, State Rep. Jim Murphy, Houston City Councilman Greg Travis, HISD Trustee Harvin Moore, concerned citizens, or John luman. Nor did they bother to even look at the student body diversity of the elementary schools in which they impugn. They clearly did not request numbers from HISD because the numbers you are using are wrong. No. They sat in their Austin, Texas offices and flung mud from afar. One has to wonder if they could even find Fountainview or Briargrove Elementary without a map. Should people from Austin be telling the citizens of Houston what’s good for them? Should they be calling us names for entering the debate and challenging the arrogance and disdain HHA has shown toward any opposition?

  4. I actually live in the neighborhood. Mark White Elementary (which is set to open in Fall of 2016) is already at capacity from overflow from Briargrove as well as three other elementary schools before it even opens its doors. Perhaps before making not so subtle allegations that those living in the community are racist you should collect and present all facts. I am not opposed to the development assuming more information is provided (such as the supporting numbers around the projected $50 million+ tax dollars being used to build the site and why this is a better location as opposed to others that would cost significantly less than approximately $200,000/unit), but I do take offense to the way in which your “article” is written. Just based on numbers alone it seems a 2-3 bedroom home with actual property could be built for roughly the same cost in a suburb with arguably better public schools. So why build in an overcrowded area where spots at the neighborhood school may not be available for the families living in the Fountainview project as well as the neighborhood and other apartments nearby? I think perhaps with more information provided in advance to the public and those living around the proposed project site and presentation of the diligence that HHA conducted, all of these issues could have been avoided. What I do NOT think is that concern over government spending and access to public schools equates to racism.

  5. You assume racism, YOU. That is unfair, let us see the rational in data of your choice. It seems to me that there are many apartments still in the neighborhood to accommodate middle income families. Why don’t you spend the money on a top rate school that educates children from 3 on, that lasts all day and provides excellent opportunities as in Harlem NY, saving parents childcare money, providing safe, excellent schooling, thus bringing up the entire neighborhood? I own a warehouse in the Gulfton Getto, as it used to be called. In the 20 years that I have been there on a daily basis I have seen remarkable changes. The parents that live there have large families and have demanded and gotten good schooling they, they, not HHA have remade that neighborhood. The real question is what really works to educate our young as that appears to be your stated goal.

  6. This proposal is flawed in so many ways. First, if improving the education of low income individuals is a priority then the money should go to improving the schools in THOSE AREAS. Second, simply trying to move a group into a higher income area where those schools are over capacity is not a solution that benefits anyone. Entitling individuals to the lifestyle of those whom have worked hard and earned enough to move into a desirable location dilutes the foundation of the American ideals. You cannot put a person into an environment and expect through osmosis they will excel in life, it takes drive, determination and the commitment to perform better than your peers. Nothing in this world is free, it is earned!

  7. This article treats other developments as equal in the amount of kids that will live there, when they are really targeting different demographics. The same studies were done on the other developments in the area, and the amount of kids being added was negligible. The main opposition is an issue of overcrowding, not racism. There are other opportunities in areas that are zoned to top schools that are NOT over capacity and still in the high opportunity area. Why not go to one of those area?

  8. I didn’t realize the HHA only offered their services to people of color.
    The mission “To improve lives by providing quality, affordable housing options and promoting education and economic self-sufficiency.”
    When you turn it into a race question I believe your credibility takes a nosedive. I would expect better from a Loyola graduate.
    If you take a look at the stats, I believe you will find more diversity within Briargrove vs. the Washington schools you attended. I believe your perspective has been clouded by the agenda.

  9. This is an argument about economics and fiscal responsibility to the public by an government agency.
    The apartment developments cited in this article (1900 Yorktown, High Point Uptown, Tate at Tanglewood) were planned and built by private entities and as such those entities take on the full financial risk and responsibility of their projects.
    The proposed Fountain View/Houston Housing Authority project will be subsidized with government (public) funds. The development funds allocated for the Fountain View Project are substantial and rumored to be in the 30 to 60 million dollar range (actual budget details on this project are strangely absent from public view). Regardless, is this public housing project and total renovation of a 1970’s build office building an effective and responsible use of public sector funds?
    A further question is why the Houston Housing Authority would want their headquarters/ main office in this area. The north side of Fountain View between Westheimer and Woodway is valuable land that, according to the Harris County Appraisal District is primarily income-producing property with a very high property tax rate. Also, according to the map supplied in this article this headquarters is many miles away from any public housing project under H.H.A. jurisdiction.
    The Houston Housing Authority must have forgotten about one of the prime concerns in any real estate transaction, “highest and best use of property”. The development of the Fountain View project does not in any way represent highest and best use.

    • I agree with this response and all the other responses regarding the area residents’ being taken aback by the HHA’s baseless criticism of citizens insisting that their tax dollars be spent in the highest and best use and with transparency. The new private apartments also cause over-crowding of the local schools and congestion in the surrounding area but they are not using taxpayers’ money to build those properties. HHA, acknowledge that this project was handled poorly and stop the insults. The area residents are also hard-working citizens who deeply care about their neighborhood and Houston and do not deserve this treatment. You did not follow protocol for proper notification and impact studies and you are not being good stewards of the taxpayer money you have been entrusted to spend for the benefit of the whole community. Look at the bigger picture here, swallow your pride and go back to the drawing board so a larger population can be served.

  10. When you trample on the public’s fundamental right to voice concerns over government action by chastising them and branding them racists for their point of view, as you have done in this article, you lose all credibility in my book. If this article is any indication of how HHA has approached the project and the people who live in the vicinity, it’s no wonder there are concerns from the community.

  11. Here we go again. Liberals play the race card. If you don’t like what a liberal is doing, you must be a racist. What a joke. This garbage starts at the top with Barry Obama.

    • There you go blaming Obama for your conservative “what’s mine is mine and everyone else must be lazy” problems.

  12. The author attempts to trivialize the school attendance issue in this article and is misleading in the way they discuss it as an issue not unique to Briargrove. In fact, it is an issue wholly unique to Briargrove Elementary in its magnitude. Briargrove Elementary had the largest amount of capped students in 2015 with the amount nearly double that of the school that came in No. 2. This is well documented. http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/education/article/Houston-news-6573254.php

  13. This is ridiculous. The opposition to this HHA Project is not about race, but about the poor planning of HHA to pick a site for their project without first consulting HISD to determine if there is available capacity at the school. As a Briargrove resident, I am against the HHA project as it doesn’t matter if it’s just 42 kids added to the school, it’s still adding kids to a school that is overcrowded and adding apartments to an area where there are numerous apartments already in the area including several new developments. I specifically bought a house in this neighborhood due to the exemplary school that has a long history of success. I do not want my children forced into an unproven “overcrowding” school that doesn’t have the history of decades of successful academics that Briargrove Elementary has established. To the question as to why residents have not opposed other apartment developments in the area, I can say that I was against many of these developments as well since they also add to the overcrowding problem. However, the key difference here is that the HHA is a GOVERNMENT AGENCY using OUR TAX DOLLARS. This is a situation where taxpayers should have more say in how these dollars are spent, so it is unfair and misleading to compare the it to private developments in the area. In a city where the local apartment market is vastly overbuilt (see article below), how is it a good use of taxpayer dollars to purchase the land and develop this project which will further overcrowd an already overcrowded school?? And to address the unfounded argument you have made that this is all about race/ethnicity, the current demographics of Briargrove Elementary show that there is no ethnicity represented as a majority at the school, which is already quite diverse.

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Growing-consensus-Local-apartment-market-6793840.php

  14. This article could not contain more false, accusatory and defamatory statements if it tried. As a Briargrove resident, I can assure you that the majority of the information contained in this article is absolutely false. I wish I could say I am surprised by the “race card” being played but, sadly, I am not. If you dare to disagree, you must be a racist. As a taxpayer I find it appalling that the government would use my funds to build a $60 million complex and cite to educational opportunities for the residents as its main reason for doing so…in an area where BOTH available elementary schools are already over capacity (and one has not yet even opened its doors). This is just another example of ill-informed bloggers hiding behind their computers and flinging mud at those who speak up about issues in their own community. Shame on you.

  15. Briargrove, local elementary, was blasted in September 2015 for turning away students. It seems that if giving low income children a better education is the goal of the project this will not be realized. School overcrowding will result in children being bused. In contrast to housing projects run by the government, private housing projects have no public input available. Residents of the area also oppose these private developments but have no venue to express these views. HISD is not keeping up with growth and putting more pressure by overcrowding seems unwise. Funds could be used to make many more units in less expensive suburbs where the schools are not overcrowded. I don’t like wasting government funds to build more in an area that has school overcrowding.

  16. As a Briargrove resident I feel completely misrepresented by this article. “What’s behind the opposition” is a lack of transparency on the part of the HHA and a complete disregard for our local school. If you recall, Briargrove Elementary was blasted all over the Houston media last August for turning away students. If education is the goal of the HHA, funds would be better used on a project without an overcrowded school. Who is really being served by apartments built at $225,000 a unit with no guarantee of the occupants getting into the intended school. This makes no sense.

  17. I also live in the area and am a realtor. The development chart cited in your article is precisely what is driving the opposition. There are about a half dozen more recently built projects in the area, not listed on the chart, mostly big apartment complexes. Most of these high occupancy projects were approved and built in stealth mode, and residents couldn’t object because nobody saw them coming. At least not until it was too late. The traffic congestion is TERRIBLE and has increased exponentially in the past few years. It already takes 2-3 waits at the light at Fountainview to get through that intersection. Houston absolutely needs low income housing, but this is a very poor choice of location.

  18. As a resident of the area with kids that also attend the neighborhood schools, I have to say I was not initially opposed to the project. However, making the jump that a community is racist for being concerned over a project that impacts their schools is insulting. Frankly, I find one of the most racist things about any of this the sentence in your post that informs us that this low income housing is for “people of color”. Walk into Briargrove Elementary and you will see why much of what you’ve said above is ridiculous – it is an incredibly diverse school where so many are already turned away due to overcrowding. This post completely changes my opinion of the project as it exposes HHA’s dirty and dishonest approach to this development.

  19. The last words of your article “all in the name of a trumped-up, inconsistently-applied overcrowding argument – or, perhaps, something else left unsaid”

    Is the “unsaid something” racism? If that’s the case then it’s absolutely being talked about. But by who? By you… the authors.

    And I quote:
    “barely-veiled racial dog whistles”
    “another excuse to keep low income people of color out”

    Congratulations – You’ve simultaneously baselessly labeled us racist and diminished the families you’re supposed to help. Well done.

  20. This sounds like a very biased article with a lot of unclear and inaccurate information The people of this area are not racist and the schools are already very diverse -that’s Houston. I think some of these “statics” need to be further looked into and a more transparency from HHA is needed. If there’s this much opposition, I can assure there are good reasons – not related to racism or classism.

    • Here’s an idea: Build another elementary school where the housing office now sits and relocate the bureaucrats to an area of lower property values. This should solve the crowded public school classrooms and improve teacher student ratio! No need for office to be in a “high rent” area where highest and best use is the better education of our nations poor and underprivileged and undereducated. Build a 4th exemplary school. Maybe an arts or science magnate.

  21. you cant buy a lot in briargrove for less than $1M.

    those people that live in those homes earned the money to live there.

    those people deserve the right to live around whom they choose.

    people living off a taxpayers dont deserve anything but the basics.

    fix the problems in their areas. dont bring their problems to other areas.

    liberals are stupid….

    • The saddest part about your comments is that you really feel a sense of supremacy and don’t even realize it. You perhaps had an upper hand in your upbringing and haven’t a clue what it’s like to be poor. Rather than turn your uppty nose up at folk, why don’t you try and help someone or even volunteer at a homeless shelter and actually talk to some of the people you feel “only deserve the basics.” You are exactly what is wrong with America!

  22. I am and have been concerned about the added apartments high end etc. I live in Briarcroft on Chimney Rock for over 20 years and the traffic has gotten worse and cars drive 45 mph and faster down my street. My son and I were hit in front of our home by a girl texting and she was going extremely fast and never put on the brakes. We’ve had cats killed by people speeding and traffic gets so bad we have trouble backing out of our driveway. I do not want any more multi unit developments in the area! My wife and children are Hispanic. Our immediate neighbors are Pakistani, Hispanic, and Asian. So saying that our neighborhood is just a bunch of whites who don’t want people of color or different ethnics is completely self serving to your article. You fail to mention that there is only one middle school that serves our neighborhood and that the only high school went to English as a second language and mainly vocational granted they are trying to improve Lee HS but no one from Briargrove, Briarcroft, or Tanglewood goes there. There are plenty of apartments for lower income that are on Winrock.

  23. First, you need to get facts straight. The Tate is not completed and it is 2016.
    Briargrove Elementary is overcrowded. Neighborhood children are turned away. The HHA did not seek meetings with the HISD Trustee for Briargrove Elementary School. HHA sent representatives to Briargrove ES after this all came to light and used strong-arm tactics with the teachers and staff and was summarily called on the carpet. HHA tried sneaking this by all the interested parties and now has egg on it’s face. A little honesty goes a long way.

  24. Wow, the people of Briargrove and surrounding areas sound simply awful! Why on earth would you want to place these low income families among the racist snobs? it is difficult to take this article seriously.

  25. I agree with the comments left already. Overcrowding is an issue. Also an issue is the insane amount of Government spending that will be spent on this project – with seemingly no attempt to make sure that money is being used effectively and in a manner with actually helps the people it is claiming to help. It helps no one to move into a neighborhood for a better school and then find out there is no room – even with the new Mark White school being built! It isn’t fair to the people who already live in the neighborhood and it isn’t fair to those they bring in hoping for a better opportunity. If they found another site – working WITH the HISD officials and local government – the HHA could find a more cost-effective, responsible place to spend our tax dollars.

  26. “Gunsolley points out that the federal government wants to put more affordable housing in higher end neighborhoods because it helps the residents better their lives.” Can you explain to me HOW it will help the lower income residents better their lives? They probably have to paid more on gas, grocery, and anything in between. I speak from my experience. If you a low income resident, you want to live in an area where housing, gas, grocery is more affordable so that you can save up $ for education, investment, and start up cost for better life. You move up to a better area as you make more $ to afford it. This doesn’t have anything to do with racism as low income residents could be white, and people oppose this project could be non-white (I am Asian.) Whoever said people opposing this project are racists are actually the racists themselves because they already assume low income people are non white.

  27. I actually live in this. I’m not white and not racist. This article claims we are all racist here. But we paid premium prices to live in a safe neighborhood with good schools. Because of this overcrowding our kids are denied quality education. And the project was definitely sneaked in on us

  28. This is the kind of stuff that happens when you elected liberal democrats into your governmnet. What’s next? Am I going to be forced to take these kids into my house having to raise, feed and educate them while their parents sit around in their rent-free luxury apartment on Fountain View Drive doing nothing????

    And from a broader perspective….back in the mid 60’s when LBJ’s war on poverty was enacted including all sorts of social programs heaped on along the way (WIC, EIC, HUD, Section 8, Lonestar Cards, etc.) the poverty rate was about 20%.

    Well guess what, the poverty rates is STILL 20% some 40 years later!!!

    Socialist welfare programs do not work, they do not help the poor, they just tax the hell out of the middle class.

  29. Since they seem to have all the answers why was HISD not completely informed of the plan or given the chance to give any input.

  30. Why were the Briargrove residents only informed of the proposed tax dollar funded Fountainview project at such a late stage? I attended the HHA public meeting on March 9 and was convinced by the reasons for opposing the project: already overcrowded schools, especially the BG Elementary, which already has a long waiting list; lack of transparency of the planning process- not all parties concerned were timely informed of the process; absurdly high tax dollars ($224,ooo per unit) to be abused due to the lack of site analysis with due diligence. Diversity takes place in its natural course along with the social and ecnomic changes, and will not sustain if it’s forced upon the community with the government interference without the consent of the community through due process.

  31. I am a homeowner in the community where they plan to build public housing (approx. Fountain View and Westheimer) and I would like to voice my opposition to this project. There are several reasons including.
    – The schools that are fed by this community already exceed capacity and adding new high occupancy residences will not help the children or the community. If part of the intent is to place underprivileged children within reach of better education, it would be better to allow school choice for the kids than to bring the kids into an area that is at capacity and cannot accept more children.
    – Poor usage of tax payer resources. The property values are high in the area of Fountain View and Westheimer and the GLO will obtain more bang for its buck at many other locations south of Westheimer. As a taxpayer I expect better stewardship from the public servants.
    – Real estate values will be impacted. There is no instance, that I am aware of, where the addition of public housing has helped the values of surrounding real estate. At best the result is a push and at worse a severe depreciation in property values in the surrounding community. Is the GLO going to compensate the surrounding property owners for this loss. We work hard, pay taxes and struggle just like everyone else.
    – Finally, the government should not have the unilateral right to impact my rights and property value. The government is meant to serve “we the people” and not the other way around.

    My opposition is not about race, as was mentioned in a recent “town hall meeting”. I am of Mexican heritage. The townhouse where I live has a Lebanese couple, Chinese couple, Mexican couple and a Colombian couple. Three of the four have small children.

  32. Ok,I won’t try and make up or cite a bunch of reasons NOT to build low income housing in my neighborhood. Here’s the real reason I don’t want that crap built, The people now living in the area will suffer a decline in property value because people who can not afford to live in the area will now be moving in at the expense of us that have paid a premium for living in the area. Does that not count for anything? Why should people be robbed of the value of their property for people that people can not pay the going price. I’m 72 years old and have paid dearly to live in a nice part of town. I have seen what public housing can do to a neighborhood. You can’t say that property values will not decline due to public housing in the area and increase crime. If you say it won’t you are either a liar or just really stupid. Or does the Houston Housing authority just not care about citizens that already live in the area. This is why people are fed up with the Government Welfare State we now live in. Why don’t you build me a house in River Oaks? I can not afford to pay the high real estate prices in River Oaks. Go build your damn project in an area that will HELP IMPROVE the standard of living in the existing neighborhood. If I want to help the poor, I’ll just send money.

  33. I own two properties in the area. I bought a condo on Fountain View in 1995 and a townhouse on Bering in 2002. I am counting on them to provide me rental income or a salable assets in retirement. To add subsidized housing and diminish the value of such a great neighborhood would be foolish especially when you consider the schools are already overcrowded. There is plenty of reasonably priced housing not far from here (across 59 or out Westheimer) for the low income with bus transportation allowing easy access to the neighborhood.

  34. So lets talk about the real reason people don’t want this – crime. Every neighborhood that section 8 housing goes into the crime rates surge and the schools become dangerous and violent. Disregard some of these slanted “studies” and look at some facts.

    Champions Forest in Northwest Houston was a nice and quiet subdivision near Klein Forest High School. As soon as section 8 housing was put in, the crime rate went up, the property value went down, and Klein Forest HS became a violent place where assaults, theft and so many other crimes took place daily. Residential burglaries became far more common and commercial robbery is a daily occurrence.

    These people don’t want to leave behind crime and trash but they bring it with them. They destroy the neighborhood and destroy the schools. Call it what you want, but these people have worked very hard to have a nice home in a safe area. They pay a premium for it, they pay high property taxes and other taxes. Where does section 8 housing come from? Taxes! Most of these people also collect welfare, and now people want to snuggle up the recipients of taxpayer-funded “benefits” right next to the taxpayers?

    • I am trying to relocate to Reunion at Redmond Ridge a Senior Community in Redmond WA where two of my friends have retired. I have a Section 8 voucher but have not been successful in transferring it from San Antonio Tx. What can I do about this “absorbing” problem? I am 66 years old and would like to live in this Trilogy Retirement area it is called. A very safe upscale community with bus 🚌 transportation and grocery store in walking distance. I am not a crime risk type person just retired after 45 years in the Texas workforce so low income. Please help Mr Castro.

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